I have talked with a few friends recently about gay ordination, and some concerns we have about where different churches in our area are going. I know that this can become very heated debate, but I do not want to shrink back form the matter at hand either.
The ordained members of our church are those we have entrusted to guide us, to lead us as we follow after God striving to become more like Christ with each passing day. I have always believed that while those we have chosen to lead us are only human and thus just as susceptible to temptation as the rest of us. However, I also believe that they need to be seeking to live their life in obedience to the Gospel.
Recently the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) officially revised its ordination standards due to a majority or presbyteries voted to change the rules in their Book of Order that changes their understanding of sexual faithfulness and biblical authority. The Book of Order is a part of the PC (USA)’s constitution. Their website states:
The Book of Order is Part II of the Constitution of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). This document contains the Form of Government, Directory for Worship, Rules of Discipline, and the Formula of Agreement.
To give you a brief overview of the change they have made I want to quote for you the original text, and then follow that with the revised text.
Original Text from their ordination standards:
Those who are called to office in the church are to lead a life of obedience to Scripture and in conformity to the historic confessional standards of the church. Among these standards is the requirement to live either in fidelity within the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman (W-4.9001), or chastity in singleness. Persons refusing to repent of any self-acknowledged practice which the confessions call sin shall not be ordained and/or installed as deacons, elders, or ministers of the Word and Sacrament.
New Revised Text from their ordination standards:
Standards for ordained service reflect the church’s desire to submit joyfully to the Lordship of Christ in all aspects of life (G-1.0000). The governing body responsible for ordination and/or installation (G-14.0240; 14.0450) shall examine each candidate’s calling, gifts, preparation, and suitability for the responsibilities of office. The examination shall include, but not be limited to, a determination of the candidate’s ability and commitment to fulfill all requirements as expressed in the constitutional questions for ordination and installation (W-4.4003). Governing bodies shall be guided by Scripture and the confessions in applying standards to individual candidates.
For a more detailed look at these changes please look at Rev. Dr. Mark D. Roberts review of the changes, he is a Presbyterian pastor and did a great write-up on this and has a lot of great information on his site. Another response that I found interesting was by the Presbyterians For Renewal.
As you can see from the changes, the church is not specifically endorsing Gay Ordination, just letting each specific church make the choice for them self.
I want to start by saying that I do not have a “problem” with homosexuals. I have a few friends who are homosexual and have worked under at least two homosexuals, and had a few homosexual professors and mentors through college. I have enjoyed my friendships and relationships with each of these people and cherish each of them. However, I had never been ashamed to let them know that I did not agree with their lifestyle. I think that the best way I have ever been able to explain my thoughts was to a friend who had challenged my friendship with my lesbian boss because I was a Christian. What I said to him was
“So you are saying that because I am a Christian I should not be friends with [my boss]? That is ridiculous; the issue I have with her lifestyle are due to her sin in having sex outside of marriage, as well as the sin of living out the homosexual life. However, the same problems I have with her should make it so I cannot be friends with you (my friend who asked challenged me), you have no problem telling me about how you are sleeping with your girlfriend, and the other girls you have slept with in the past. So if by your standards I cannot be friends with [my boss] because of the sin in her life, I can not be friends with you due to the sin in your life.”
This is how I still feel. I have many friends who while calling them selves Christians or not have continued to live in a lifestyle of sin. Often these people are sleeping around, and while living in this lifestyle of sin I am still friends with them. What I do believe this demands of me is for me to be forthright and honest with them about the fact that I disagree with their lifestyle and believe that God through His Holy Bible has called us to live in purity and abstain from sex until we are married. Often my expression of this thought is met with rolled eyes and some minor mockery. But, I have made my thoughts known, and will continue to make them known when needed. I also feel that it is still my responsibility to continue to minister to them, be there as a sympathetic friend when they are hurt and work to lift them up when the consequences of their lifestyle come to bear. I pray for my friends, and I will do what I an to minister to them and share the Hope and Glory found in God with them, but I can only do so much and I have to rely on the Holy Spirit to do the transforming work.
With all of that said, my problem with homosexual clergy comes form a theological context, not a personal one. The only guidelines that I find in the Bible come from 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1:
1 Timothy 3:1-13
Overseers and Deacons
1 Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer,[a] he desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. 5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. 7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.8 Deacons, likewise, are to be men worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain. 9They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience. 10 They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.
11 In the same way, their wives[b] are to be women worthy of respect, not malicious talkers but temperate and trustworthy in everything.
12 A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well. 13 Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.
Titus 1:5-9
Titus’s Task on Crete
5 The reason I left you in Crete was that you might straighten out what was left unfinished and appoint[a] elders in every town, as I directed you. 6 An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. 7 Since an overseer[b] is entrusted with God’s work, he must be blameless—not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. 8 Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. 9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.
By looking at these guidelines I see that both state that a leader in the church must be “the husband of but one wife.” What this shows me is that just as a homosexual cannot fulfill that leadership role, neither should a single person, a divorce who is remarried, or someone having sexual relationships outside of their marriage bed. The Bible clearly shows that those who are in leadership positions of the church should be held to these high standards.
My second problem with a homosexual pastor would be the same as the problem I have with an adulterous pastor, a drug-using pastor, and any pastor living in unrepentant sin. By living a life that continues in behaviors that the Bible clearly defines as sin, you cannot say that you are living a life obedient to scripture. Is there a possibility that a pastor, deacon, or elder may be tempted and fall, yes. If they do they would need to be repentant and be working to do whatever is needed to turn away from that sin. But most people who are sleeping around d not feel convicted that they are living in sin, just as most of the homosexuals I know do not feel that they are living in sin. Looking at the Bible, even just the New Testament it is listed as a sin. For an example look at Romans 1:26-32
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
I do not feel that it is right for us to lift up people as leaders who are living their life in direct opposition to key tenants of the Bible. This applies to all areas of life, not just homosexuality. I do believe that God can redeem anyone, and he is Love, but he is also just and that means he does hold us accountable for our actions. He loves everyone, but that dose not mean he wants everyone to lead.